We’ve written extensively of the court case between Sony and Immersion and its potential impact on the peripherals business for the PS3. While we’ve been featured on Immersion’s own press site, we assure our readers that we have no affiliation or vested interests in the company. Right before GDC, this court battle came to a fruitful conclusion for both parties involved. Having lost the initial court case, and the subsequent appeal, Sony cut its loss and settled with Immersion, using the opportunity to ink a new licensing deal.

All in all, this proved to be a very positive move from a PR perspective, and cleared the path to the potential re-introduction of rumble support in future iteration of the SIXAXIS controller for the PS3. Shortly thereafter, an update for Gran Turismo HD was released which added force feedback support to steering wheels. Some heralded this as the first benefit of this deal, but it should be noted that force feedback in steering wheels was never affected by the previous court case. The steering wheels weren’t being manufactured by Sony, and therefore couldn’t fall foul due to Sony’s lack of licensing of Immersion’s technology.

We suspect that the force feedback update could have been done earlier, but was politically impossible until an agreement was struck with Immersion. Regardless, it’s another good PR move from Sony: silently release an update, and let the consumers rave about the new added support. Other updates have also re-added rumble support for PSOne and PS2 titles on older DualShock controllers.

Many have suspected that since the agreement, Sony will have been working on a new controller with rumble support. We can now confirm that this is the case. We’ve heard from two independent sources at Sony that they have been working on prototypes for several months. Officially, the corporate line is still “no comment”. Unofficially, Sony is facing some difficulties with battery life; i.e. Between the rumble and the wireless support, the batteries are draining too fast to be acceptable for consumers.

Incidentally, no mention of the rumble having an adverse affect on the motion sensitivity (as Sony PR claimed, but was refuted by Immersion).

The battery life issue is an engineering problem, and we have no doubt Sony will resolve it satisfactorily. The two main problems we predict are both of a PR nature:

  • First, and this is less important, how do you release a rumble-supporting controller after the claims that rumble is not next-gen? It’s not a major problem because most consumers won’t care about this, even hard-core ones will be happy to see rumble re-introduced.
  • Second, how do you bring this to the market without upsetting consumers who already own a PS3, and therefore rumble-less controllers? Sony should not offer the rumble controller as an option, it should become the new default controller. All the old controllers should be pulled off the shelves. A financially expensive, but positive PR move would be to offer all current consumers the opportunity to “upgrade” their controllers for free.

When this new controller gets released doesn’t really matter anymore. As soon as Sony has the hardware kinks worked out, and enough developer support they will release it. They should have had settled with Immersion 6 months before launch and avoided this entire mess. The cost of the settlement is but a mere drop in the overall development cost of the PS3. It is good to see Sony learn from their mistakes and try to rectify them, and hopefully they will learn to avoid making these mistakes altogether in the future.

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29 Responses to “PS3 Controller with Rumble in Development”

I decided to buy a second controller as soon as they are available from Sony with rumble support. I don’t mind if it has a cable, because I don’t like to always watch if there is enough battery left.

[…] You heard it right folks. Apart from a future price cut, Sony is currently developing in testing phase of the rumble feature for the PS3. Inner Bits reports this: Many have suspected that since the agreement, Sony will have been working on a new controller with rumble support. We can now confirm that this is the case. We’ve heard from two independent sources at Sony that they have been working on prototypes for several months. Officially, the corporate line is still “no comment”. Unofficially, Sony is facing some difficulties with battery life; i.e. Between the rumble and the wireless support, the batteries are draining too fast to be acceptable for consumers. […]

[…] El Sixaxis acabará vibrandowww.innerbits.com/blog/2007/06/14/ps3-controller-with-rumble… por PunchDrunkLove hace pocos segundos […]

[…] Come già anticipato tempo fa Sony è intenzionata ad aggiungere la funzione “rumble” ai propri joypad Sixaxix. Infatti, secondo il sito Inner Bits, fonti interne a Sony hanno lasciato trapelare che il prototipo è in fase di test da alcuni mesi. […]

[…] Jak bardzo wibracje były nieważne dla Sony jeszcze przed zakończeniem ich procesu z Immersion wiemy wszyscy. Tymczasem obydwie firmy pogodziły się, wyrównały swoje straty i znowu są najlepszymi przyjaciółmi. Do tego wszystkiego co jakiś czas słyszymy o wprowadzeniu wibracji w SIXAXISie. Sami nawet o nich nawet swego czasu pisaliśmy. Teraz kolejne źródło podaje dodatkowe informacje. Otóż podobno dwóch niezależnych od siebie informatorów pracujących dla Sony, potwierdziło iż faktycznie prace nad dołożeniem wibracji do pada PS3 trwają już od jakiegoś czasu, ale napotkano na pewien problem - czas życia baterii. Podobno jest tak krótki, że przestaje być akceptowalny dla klientów. Życzymy jak najszybszego uporania się z przeszkodami technicznymi i wydania w końcu pełnowartościowego pada. W końcu wszyscy wiemy, że ta cecha jednak jest ważna podczas grania. […]

“How do you release a rumble-supporting controller after the claims that rumble is not next-gen?”

Saying that you’re listening your costumers and added the rumble feature because they wanted it….

[…] It turns out it won’t be too much longer, according to a report from Inner Bits: We can now confirm that this is the case. We’ve heard from two independent sources at Sony that they have been working on prototypes for several months. Officially, the corporate line is still “no comment”. Unofficially, Sony is facing some difficulties with battery life; i.e. Between the rumble and the wireless support, the batteries are draining too fast to be acceptable for consumers. […]

[…] According to Innerbits after Sony settled with Immersion, who sued them because a patent violation regarding the controller’s rumble feature, they have been working on two prototypes for the past couple of months. We can now confirm that this is the case. We’ve heard from two independent sources at Sony that they have been working on prototypes for several months. Officially, the corporate line is still “no comment”. Unofficially, Sony is facing some difficulties with battery life; i.e. Between the rumble and the wireless support, the batteries are draining too fast to be acceptable for consumers. […]

[…] Innerbits, the site that posted the awesome breakdown of XMB memory costs last month, has come through again with a great article about the upcoming rumble-capable Sixaxis. According to the site, they’ve gotten confirmation from two different sources at Sony that they have been working on a rumbling Sixaxis for several months now and are just trying to work out the last of the kinks. […]

[…] Innerbits, the site that posted the awesome breakdown of XMB memory costs last month, has come through again with a great article about the upcoming rumble-capable Sixaxis. According to the site, they’ve gotten confirmation from two different sources at Sony that they have been working on a rumbling Sixaxis for several months now and are just trying to work out the last of the kinks. […]

[…] It’s unlikely that we’ll be the only ones thrilled to see this fiasco finally reach closure, and even though the dust has somewhat settled, the PS3 faithful are still operating sans a first-party rumbling controller. Rumors may have suggested that such a device was indeed getting ready to launch in the not too distant future, but according to a blurb at Inner Bits, battery life could be holding things up. While it doesn’t come without a tad of salt, Sony is reportedly “facing some difficulties with regard to battery life,” as sources supposedly mentioned that “the rumble and wireless support” were causing the batteries to “drain too fast to be acceptable for consumers.” Of course, there’s always the third-party alternative if you’re not picky, but those holding out for the real deal could be waiting a tick longer if this proves true. […]

[…] It’s unlikely that we’ll be the only ones thrilled to see this fiasco finally reach closure, and even though the dust has somewhat settled, the PS3 faithful are still operating sans a first-party rumbling controller. Rumors may have suggested that such a device was indeed getting ready to launch in the not too distant future, but according to a blurb at Inner Bits, battery life could be holding things up. While it doesn’t come without a tad of salt, Sony is reportedly “facing some difficulties with regard to battery life,” as sources supposedly mentioned that “the rumble and wireless support” were causing the batteries to “drain too fast to be acceptable for consumers.” Of course, there’s always the third-party alternative if you’re not picky, but those holding out for the real deal could be waiting a tick longer if this proves true. […]

[…] It’s unlikely that we’ll be the only ones thrilled to see this fiasco finally reach closure, and even though the dust has somewhat settled, the PS3 faithful are still operating sans a first-party rumbling controller. Rumors may have suggested that such a device was indeed getting ready to launch in the not too distant future, but according to a blurb at Inner Bits, battery life could be holding things up. While it doesn’t come without a tad of salt, Sony is reportedly “facing some difficulties with regard to battery life,” as sources supposedly mentioned that “the rumble and wireless support” were causing the batteries to “drain too fast to be acceptable for consumers.” Of course, there’s always the third-party alternative if you’re not picky, but those holding out for the real deal could be waiting a tick longer if this proves true. […]

[…] Fuentes cercanas a Inner Bits comentan que, sorprendentemente, Sony sí estuvo trabajando en la vibración de Sixaxis durante varios meses. ¿El problema? La batería. […]

[…] It’s unlikely that we’ll be the only ones thrilled to see this fiasco finally reach closure, and even though the dust has somewhat settled, the PS3 faithful are still operating sans a first-party rumbling controller. Rumors may have suggested that such a device was indeed getting ready to launch in the not too distant future, but according to a blurb at Inner Bits, battery life could be holding things up. While it doesn’t come without a tad of salt, Sony is reportedly “facing some difficulties with regard to battery life,” as sources supposedly mentioned that “the rumble and wireless support” were causing the batteries to “drain too fast to be acceptable for consumers.” Of course, there’s always the third-party alternative if you’re not picky, but those holding out for the real deal could be waiting a tick longer if this proves true. […]

[…] Esto tiene todos los visos de convertirse en un fiasco de considerables dimensiones, y aunque las cosas parecen que se han calmado un poco, lo cierto es que la PS3 sigue sin tener un proveedor claro para la vibración de su control remoto. Los rumores apuntaban a que este dispositivo podría estar disponible a medio plazo, pero según informa un rumor publicado en Inner Bits, la duración de la batería podría estar retrasando todo el asunto. Sony, por su parte, reconoce que está “teniendo ciertos problemas con la duración de la batería”, ya que al parecer, la vibración y el control inalámbrico estaban provocando que las baterías “se agotaran demasiado rápido, de forma no aceptable para los consumidores”. Como suele ser habitual en estos casos, existe una alternativa de un tercero, pero los que queráis una solución de la casa, tendréis que esperar un poco más. […]

[…] With that out of the way, the focus now is on when we can actually expect to see rumble technology added to future PS3 controllers. According to the guys at Innerbits.com, the time may be soon — if Sony can work through some battery life issues that have cropped up as a result of trying to add more features to the Sixaxis:  Many have suspected that since the agreement, Sony will have been working on a new controller with rumble support. We can now confirm that this is the case. We’ve heard from two independent sources at Sony that they have been working on prototypes for several months. Officially, the corporate line is still “no comment”. Unofficially, Sony is facing some difficulties with battery life; i.e. between the rumble and the wireless support, the batteries are draining too fast to be acceptable for consumers. […]

Rumble for PS2 games is still not a slam dunk. I have two different USB PS2 adapters and neither transfers the rumble single for the Logitech wireless controller. One sort-of works with the default dualshock but pauses randomly but there’s a delay so it’s basically useless. Gutair Hero 2 still sucks @ss even with the latest Pelecan adapter. Thought you would like to know since the way you made it sound you just buy and adapter, plug it in and ‘boom,’ your PS2 games have rumble, which is not the case.

What do people consider to be ’short’ in terms of battery life? I have just completed Call of Duty 3 on the ps3 (over a period of a few weeks), using solely the wireless controller and I never once saw a ‘low battery’ indication. I usually game for up-to 3 hours, then I plug the controller in and let it charge (when I remember).

I guess the heavy gamers are playing for up to 10 hours, right? I don’t know of any wireless device which will last that long on full-umph, so to expect the batteries to last that long would be somewhat unrealistic wouldn’t it?

People forget that the original Playstation controller in 1995 didn’t even have analog sticks on it, much less rumble.

I don’t recall there being any backlash when Sony introduced the dual analog stick, gamers were happy to see what the new technology brought. Same thing when they changed it again and introduced the dual shock.

Pictures for those who have forgotten:

Original Playstation Controller (1995):
http://www.jwnyc.com/games/images/psx04.jpg

Original Playstation dual analog (1997):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2d/Dual_Analog_Pad_Grey.jpg/180px-Dual_Analog_Pad_Grey.jpg
(Notice the dual sticks have concave tops)

Playstation dual shock (1997?):
http://www.axess.com/twilight/console/detail/psx_b.jpg
(Sticks now have convex tops)

[…] According to a report over on Inner Bits, Sony has long since signed a new licensing deal with Immersion after settling the lawsuit between the two companies out of court. When Gran Turismo HD was released, complete with an update that gave it rumble feedback via a number of steering wheel accessories, people presumed this would be the last step before the Sixaxis Rumble was launched. However, most failed to realise that Third Party steering wheel companies have already licensed Immersion’s technology, so this was completely unrelated to Sony’s plans…if any plans even existed. […]

[…] La vibración podría estar cerca en PS3 Published by June 18th, 2007 in Videojuegos Sony ha declinado comentar los recientes rumores que afirman que un nuevo controlador con funciones de vibración esta siendo actualmente desarrollado por los ingenieros de la compañía japonesa. Estos rumores comenzaron a propagarse por la red la semana pasada, incluyendo un informe publicado por la web Innerbits, en el cual se podía leer que dos fuentes independientes en Sony aseguraban que llevaban trabajando con diferentes prototipos desde hace semanas. Como hemos comentado, tanto SCEA como SCEE han declinado hacer comentarios sobre estor rumores. No obstante, desde el acuerdo firmado entre Sony e Immersion, son muchas las señales que indican que en el futuro, PS3 contará con funciones de vibración. Incluso el mismísimo Kaz Hirai declaró en su día que "estamos muy excitados con nuestro nuevo acuerdo con Immersion, y con el potencial que esto nos proporciona para nuevos e innovadores productos". Seguiremos informando. Fuente: Gamesindustry. […]

[…] Ahora, un nuevo rumor ha salido a la luz: el blog Inner Bits (del que jamás había escuchado) dijo que “dos fuentes internas de Sony” le confirmaron que se ha estado trabajando en un control que use tanto el rumble feature como el sensor de movimiento durante los últimos siete meses. […]

[…] La vibración podría estar cerca en PS3 Published by June 19th, 2007 in Videojuegos Sony ha declinado comentar los recientes rumores que afirman que un nuevo controlador con funciones de vibración esta siendo actualmente desarrollado por los ingenieros de la compañía japonesa. Estos rumores comenzaron a propagarse por la red la semana pasada, incluyendo un informe publicado por la web Innerbits, en el cual se podía leer que dos fuentes independientes en Sony aseguraban que llevaban trabajando con diferentes prototipos del supuesto mando desde hace semanas. Como hemos comentado, tanto SCEA como SCEE han declinado hacer comentarios sobre estor rumores. No obstante, desde el acuerdo firmado entre Sony e Immersion, son muchas las señales que indican que en el futuro, PS3 contará con funciones de vibración. Incluso el mismísimo Kaz Hirai declaró en su día que "estamos muy excitados con nuestro nuevo acuerdo con Immersion, y con el potencial que esto nos proporciona para nuevos e innovadores productos". Seguiremos informando. Fuente: Gamesindustry. […]

When will these controllers be available?

[…] It’s unlikely that we’ll be the only ones thrilled to see this fiasco finally reach closure, and even though the dust has somewhat settled, the PS3 faithful are still operating sans a first-party rumbling controller. Rumors may have suggested that such a device was indeed getting ready to launch in the not too distant future, but according to a blurb at Inner Bits, battery life could be holding things up. While it doesn’t come without a tad of salt, Sony is reportedly “facing some difficulties with regard to battery life,” as sources supposedly mentioned that “the rumble and wireless support” were causing the batteries to “drain too fast to be acceptable for consumers.” Of course, there’s always the third-party alternative if you’re not picky, but those holding out for the real deal could be waiting a tick longer if this proves true. […]

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